Blog Commenting / John Kerr's blog / Computer retailng... from a consumers' point of view

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Query: Aren't blog's supposed to be commentable? I see no comment button on this page.

> However, what ticks me off is that so many local stores have the
same products. There is no variety.

Presumably cause they're all buying from the same distributors.

And presumably because off-brands don't sell.

Have you noticed how in the last little while TigerDirect, which is actually Ingram if I recall correctly, sells more off-brands than anything else? I've have poor experiences with them and off-brands. If at all possible I'll buy from Canada Computers (http://www.canadacomputers.com/) in Waterloo (http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowContact, see Waterloo.) They have humans there, that know what they're doing, unlike the average person I encounter at Future Shop or Best Buy.

> On this point, I do not know why people think that a Zellers
is any better than a Wal-Mart.

Heck, I found it remarkable that they even have wireless routers and other stuff in the first place!

> The little shops are better at serving small to medium sized business
as well

Shops? Or consultants. e.g. NetDirect.

> The reason that I am so happy to see FactoryDirect open in KW is that

I saw this mentioned before. Where? http://www.factorydirect.ca/cgi-bin/general/locations.pl does not show a K-W location.

> That is my opinionated 2 cents CDN worth.

Ditto.

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<cite>Query: Aren't blog's supposed to be commentable? I see no comment button on this page.</cite>

I would think so. Let's see how it goes. Comments will get swtiched off if comment-spam-maintenance becomes an issue.

In reply to by richard

OK, but I would have thought the blog author / owner would have the ability to control / delete / edit comments made to their own blogs.

No?

This would decrease the potential spam problem for the admins by making it a blog author responsibility.

But I hear you - it's an irritating issue to deal with, if it becomes one.

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In reply to by Bill

Further ... presumably (optionally?) the blog author would be notified of anyone commenting on their blog?

So they know, quickly, they may have to deal with a spam issue?

[Side Note: There wouldn't happen to be a spell check facility in here somewhere, would there?]

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Hello

bswitzer has raised some very good points and I should clarify what I mean by small shops vs consultants.

Companies like NetDirect are in a total different league compared to a one or two person computer shop. I really do not think of consulting firms as being part of "retail". The two person shops can do a good job serving very small businesses where there are no more than 3 computers in the entire business (to pick a number).

Hoewever, anyone who depends on their computers for business wouldn't or shouldn't be buying hardware from a discount shop. They should go to a shop that services what they sell.

I dealt with a small computer supplier before at a former place of employ. Basically it was a two person operation. They did charge more for equipment but they also have a repair person who makes house calls.

A company had better use the services of a good consulting firm when
computer system downtime can potentially:
1: lose customers
2: lose credibility in the marketplace
3: lose lots of money by paying employees while they play euchre

Either way, the full service shops or the consutaning firms should not be affected by the discounter stores.

Thanks for the URl to http://www.canadacomputers.com/ They look like a good shop.

The announcement of the factoryDirect store in Waterloo is in the
pre-holiday flyer. You are right it, is not io the website.

But I have to wonder about some of these small shops when they look at you as if you had two heads and say "Linux?? watzzat?"

Cheers!

John Kerr | Guelph Ontario
jkerr0102@rogers.com
519.763.6489

My company has been selling computer and computer parts for a lot of years now, but in the last 2 years we haven't been promoting it at all, for a number of reasons.

First and foremost, because consumers are not worth the hastle. With very few exceptions, they are arrogant, self-centred, not sufficiently educated to accomplish what they think should come automatically, and completely unwilling to take resposibility for their own actions. I had one customer who called and told me (two months later) that the computer didn't work from the day they got it, and it was entirely our fault, and they did absolutely nothing to it, and they demanded all of their money back or they would call the cops and the BBB and sue us. What they did was took it home, installed P2P software on it, downloaded Partition Magic from a pirate software site, used it to manipulate their partitions, installed a second operating system on it, loaded it up with pirate software, and used it for 2 months without any sort of surge protection.

Secondly is the competition. Although you can buy a router or a printer much cheaper from big-box retailers, the OEM component market has always been the tool that made it possible, at least until recently. Large web-based retailers that sell the OEM parts only confuse the issue, because they would sell the parts cheaper than we can, hiding sipping costs from the advertisements, not providing decent enduser support. It is very different for one of us to figure out what part of our computer is broken and send it back than for the "average user" who takes it back and says "computer not work, your fault, fix NOW!" (back to the customers again) And don't get me started on how many Dell computers I have had to deal with because owners used up their service calls or refuse to deal with tech support from India.

Third is the margin. Making a small amount on a computer is one thing, but having to spend manpower "fixing" computers that are "broken" will eat it up, and I spent 14 hours quoting one customer that only bought 2 systems. It just isn't worth it.

In reply to by rbclemen

[i]I had one customer who called and told me (two months later) that the computer didn't work from the day they got it, and it was entirely our fault, and they did absolutely nothing to it, and they demanded all of their money back or they would call the cops and the BBB and sue us.[/i]

Sounds like the call I got today from someone who bought a Linux machine from us and wanted to return it because it was too slow (PIII 550 w/ 128MB RAM running Debian/GNU Linux). They wanted to return it with a pirated copy of Windows XP on it;-) No doubt there's probably a tonne of spyware on it. Such is life, happens in all retail sectors.

In reply to by charm

I had one customer who called and told me (two months later) that the computer didn't work from the day they got it, and it was entirely our fault, and they did absolutely nothing to it, and they demanded all of their money back or they would call the cops and the BBB and sue us.

We get the odd person like that. You'd be amazed what people expect to get from a $40 computer! That said, our market is quite different, usually new Canadians without a lot of money. We get the odd person in who knows exactly what they want, and those are usually great experiences.

The computer sales market has had a very low margin on hardware for a long time now. I think this is why we get a lot of "cheap junk" like Winmodems. I was going to suggest that the used market is even worse on margins, but I thought about this for a little bit, and it occurred to me that there is A LOT of activity on eBay in the used computer parts market, especially for specialty parts (Sun, SGI, even Atari 2600!). I've seen old Atari/Commodore games with a few bids on them for over $30, not bad for truly legacy stuff!

So what does this mean? Perhaps it's more a matter of who you market to, and what you say?

Charles McColm,
http://www.linux-games.ca/